# Why We Left Anwar’s Cabinet | Inside The PKR Drama | Bersama Takes Off | EP 97

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Podcast: [Are We OK?](https://stenobird.com/podcast/are-we-ok-6968499)
Published: 2026-06-06T08:32:56+00:00
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Duration seconds: 5983

## Resource

In this episode of Are We OK, former minister Nik Nazmi opens up about the massive internal fractures shaking the government and PKR. We dive into the behind-the-scenes drama.We also break down the high-stakes launch of Bersama, the brand-new political party founded by Rafizi Ramli and Nik Nazmi. Why did these long-time reformists abandon the party they spent 20 years building? Finally, we discuss the heavy policy battles that defined his time in office including the shift away from blanket subsidies and how Malaysia's rare earth minerals are getting caught in a global US-China Cold War. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 01:20 - The Launch of Bersama: A Political Startup 10:45 - Reality of Power: Missing the Cabinet Cut in 2018 23:30 - Breaking Stigmas: Mental Health in Malaysian Politics 48:20 - Rare Earths & Geopolitics: Navigating US vs. China 58:08 - Losing Anwar’s Inner Circle & Splitting the Ministry 1:01:20 - "Fixed" Party Polls & Resigning From Cabinet 1:20:32 - Fantasy Politics: Could KJ Ever Join Bersama? 1:34:10 - Defensive Strategies & The Battle for Pandan #AreWeOK #MalaysianPolitics #NikNazmi #RafiziRamli #AnwarIbrahim #Bersama #PKR #UnityGovernment #RareEarthMinerals #CabinetDrama #MalaysiaNews

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