# Design's First Responsibility: The People Who Live With It

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Podcast: [Arcfluence - The Architecture and Design Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/arcfluence-the-architecture-and-design-podcast-7249443)
Published: 2026-08-24T03:14:46+00:00
Episode link: https://arcfluence.podbean.com/e/designs-first-responsibility-the-people-who-live-with-it/
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## Resource

In this episode of The Arcfluence Podcast, Bart Shaw, FAIA, principal and co-founder of Ibañez Shaw Architecture, joins the team for a conversation about what good design is ultimately responsible for. They discuss working within real budgets and constraints, considering the long-term cost of design decisions, coordinating architecture from concept through construction, and designing buildings around the people who will use, maintain and live with them for decades.

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