# The Alternatives to Animal Research Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-rights-the-debate-6705712/the-alternatives-to-animal-research Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-rights-the-debate-6705712/the-alternatives-to-animal-research.md Podcast: [Animal Rights: the Debate](https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-rights-the-debate-6705712) Published: 2025-06-05T06:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://8455740d-a913-453b-a5ed-20f522efd647.libsyn.com/the-alternatives-to-animal-research Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/8455740d-a913-453b-a5ed-20f522efd647/riverside_david_pandora_rachel_2nd_podcast.mp3?dest-id=4223538 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-rights-the-debate-6705712/episodes/the-alternatives-to-animal-research Duration seconds: 2073 ## Resource In the second of our two-part discussion about experiments on animals, we talk to Pandora Pound and Rachel Smith about the reliability or otherwise of scientific research using animals, much of which causes profound suffering. They discuss examples of where animal experiments have failed to predict serious adverse effects in people and the huge potential of various non-animal approaches. They also focus on the ethical imperative of using methods which give the best chance of cures for serious illnesses, subject to the overall proviso that unethical methods (such as experimenting non-consensually on people) should not be used. Donate here: https://ko-fi.com/animalrightsdebate Join the WhatsApp community: https://chat.whatsapp.com/LTGteTLZkwI9XUtB1Xxfen Find out more: https://linktr.ee/animalrightsdebate ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-rights-the-debate-6705712/episodes/the-alternatives-to-animal-research/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-rights-the-debate-6705712/the-alternatives-to-animal-research.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.