# 74: The Behaviors of Leadership at Any Level - A Live Panel Recording from the ABMA 2025 Virtual Conference Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/74-the-behaviors-of-leadership-at-any-level-a-live-panel-recording-from-the-abma-2025-virtual-conference Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/74-the-behaviors-of-leadership-at-any-level-a-live-panel-recording-from-the-abma-2025-virtual-conference.md Podcast: [Animal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA](https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377) Published: 2025-11-26T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theabmapodcast/episodes/74-The-Behaviors-of-Leadership-at-Any-Level---A-Live-Panel-Recording-from-the-ABMA-2025-Virtual-Conference-e3bffio Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/d9199a04/podcast/play/111705112/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-25%2Fb7d91427-3e90-ba9f-3f9b-36517c94bd7d.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/episodes/74-the-behaviors-of-leadership-at-any-level-a-live-panel-recording-from-the-abma-2025-virtual-conference Duration seconds: 6242 ## Resource This episode continues on "The Behaviors of..." series which dives into the people side of the animal care field. This episode, is a live panel recording from the 2025 ABMA Virtual Conference with live submitted questions from conference attendees. The panelists include leaders at all levels of animal care from keepers to curators to executive directors which give a holistic view and advice on what leadership can look like at any level in the animal care field. The panelist are Chris Jenkins, Clint Lusardi, Darren Minier, Julie Grove, Missy Lamar, Sandy Jabas, Shea Eaves, Stephanie Joe, Torianna Green, and Trelle Dandridge. Instead of the traditional "Training Tales", to end the episode the panelist provide their "Leadership Resource List" which can be found at the end of this episode's description. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email ⁠ ⁠ abc@theabma.org ⁠ ⁠ 4:40 Introductions to the panelists and what does leadership mean to you? 22:45 Approaching management to encourage someone to take on a responsibility so that other coworkers feel motivated, seen, and heard 33:30 As a leader, when growing and supporting a newer leader that struggles with communication and tone, how do you best allow them to practice those skills without damaging relationships 52:20 What are the challenges of leading your peers and how do you overcome those challenges? 59:15 What advice do you have for a leader to hold their team accountable so that they are raising the team up to a higher standard instead of brining the higher achievers down to a lower standard? 1:04:20 What does it look like when a leader creates “a safe environment”? 1:09:25 What advice do you have for those who are leading amongst their peers? 1:26:20 How do you work around the tho… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/episodes/74-the-behaviors-of-leadership-at-any-level-a-live-panel-recording-from-the-abma-2025-virtual-conference/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/animal-behavior-conversations-the-podcast-of-the-abma-6055377/74-the-behaviors-of-leadership-at-any-level-a-live-panel-recording-from-the-abma-2025-virtual-conference.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.