# Ep. 251: Myles Smith | Stargazing, Therapy, and The Secret Cost of Success

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Published: 2026-05-26T16:17:58+00:00
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Today's guest is a rising star who's risen so fast he's not really rising anymore — he's just a star. From a bedroom in Luton playing $50 nylon-string covers and open mics playing for 4 people... Three years later: a billion streams, "Stargazing" on President Obama's summer playlist, two singles that took over pop radio before he'd ever made a debut album, and a debut album sourced from the notes he wrote in therapy that saved him. He's proof that sometimes all you really need is a guitar, a work ethic, and a Taco Bell-poisoned night in Malibu to write a song people argue about in twenty languages. And the writer is... Myles Smith! If you've ever wanted something so badly you didn't think to ask what it would cost when it arrived — this is the conversation. And The Writer Is... Myles Smith! In this episode of And The Writer Is, we go deep on: • Why he scrubbed every song he made before 2023 — and what "I didn't exist before 2023" actually means • His advice for up and coming artists... • The end-of-Covid breakdown at 18 that almost ended things — and the therapy notes that became My Mess, My Heart, My Life. • Meeting Peter Fenn on the last day of a six-week US trip — and writing "My Home" in the first hour • The Taco Bell food-poisoning night in Malibu that produced "Stargazing" • The hidden cost of success on his relationships • "Hey mom, I want to retire you" — and what she said back And much more... Hit subscribe and turn on notifications. Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music. Follow us on socials: @andthewriteris A special thank you to our sponsors for making these conversations possible. Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishers' Association. Your support means the world to us. CHAPTERS 0:00 Intro 2:21 My Mess, My Heart,…

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