# Ep. 248: Rogét Chahayed | From Pianist to Sicko Mode, Kiss Me More & APT.

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Published: 2026-04-28T15:35:38+00:00
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## Resource

Today's guest is a prolific producer behind Sicko Mode, Broccoli, Bad at Love, Kiss Me More, Laugh Now Cry Later, First Class, and APT. — but whose real story isn't the catalog. It's how most of those songs happened by accident. A classically trained concert pianist who spent his teens grinding through Liszt and Prokofiev knuckle-busters, Rogét quietly became one of the most important producers in modern pop and hip-hop — and almost none of it happened the way he planned. This is one of the more honest conversations about what mastery is actually for — what happens when a decade of preparation collides with a 9pm pull-up, a stock preset, and a flute sound turned on by accident. When the world keeps rewarding your simplest moves, who do you become? And The Writer Is... Rogét Chahayed! In this episode of And The Writer Is, we go deep on: Years of grinding Liszt and Prokofiev — and a first big check from four major triads on a flute The three-week run in 2016 that produced Broccoli, Skywalker, Bad at Love, and the seed of Sicko Mode The Mr. Miyagi era under Doctor Dre's right-hand man — and a pajama meeting at Dre's hidden studio Sicko Mode — made on a stock preset in a closet-sized vocal booth — and the moment he heard it open Astroworld Kiss Me More — a 2-5-1 with a walk-down — and what jazz school actually trained him to do Co-executive producing Jack Harlow's album from 4pm to 4am for a year — and how First Class came together APT. — the song he forgot about until Bruno Mars mentioned it at a friend's barbecue And much more... Hit subscribe and turn on notifications. Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music. Follow us on socials: @andthewriteris A special thank you to our sponsors for making these conversations possible. Our lead sponsor, NM…

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