# Ep. 245: Madison Beer | Becoming Yourself with the World Watching

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Podcast: [And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan](https://stenobird.com/podcast/and-the-writer-is-with-ross-golan-221813)
Published: 2026-03-31T16:27:57+00:00
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## Resource

Today’s guest is one of the most quietly enduring artists in modern pop — a songwriter and performer who’s spent over a decade growing up in public, learning how to separate perception from identity. She was discovered online as a teenager and quickly thrust into an industry that had already decided who she was. But behind the headlines, she was doing the real work — writing, refining her sound, and slowly building a career on her own terms. This is a conversation about perception vs reality, creative control, and what it actually takes to become yourself in an industry that benefits from misunderstanding you. And The Writer Is… Madison Beer! What you'll learn: • What it actually feels like to grow up in the public eye • The gap between how artists are perceived vs who they really are • Why longevity in music requires emotional resilience • How Madison developed her sound and creative identity over time • The pressure of early success — and rebuilding from it • Why being misunderstood can either break you or sharpen you This episode is brought to you by the NMPA — supporting songwriters and protecting the value of music. And by Splice — the world’s largest library of sounds and samples, built for creators. Chapters : 0:00 Intro 1:42 Madison’s favorite songs of hers 3:00 Lyrics or melody first? 4:30 Ross meeting Madison at 13 6:00 Madison’s childhood, early memories 7:00 Going through parent’s divorce in early childhood 9:45 Why singing the national anthem is hard 10:00 Her family’s early encouragement 11:00 Madison’s first song 13:00 Starting her career at 10 18:40 Getting discovered overnight from a Justin Bieber tweet. 19:11 Contracts in music industry 19:58 Meeting Justin Bieber 21:46 Why getting dropped is a blessing 24:00 Struggling with early music identity 26:00…

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