# Ep. 243: Charlie Puth Pt. 2| The Long Road to Becoming Yourself

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Podcast: [And The Writer Is...with Ross Golan](https://stenobird.com/podcast/and-the-writer-is-with-ross-golan-221813)
Published: 2026-03-17T15:02:28+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/andthewriteris/episodes/charlie-puth-the-long-road-to-becoming-yourself
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Duration seconds: 5543

## Resource

Today’s guest is one of the defining voices in modern pop — a songwriter, producer, and artist behind some of the biggest records of the last decade. His songs have been streamed billions of times worldwide. He came to Los Angeles to write for others. Instead, he became a globally identifiable artist — before fully becoming himself. Now, he’s building something that’s truly his. And The Writer Is… Charlie Puth! In this episode, Charlie opens up about: • His early journey • The moment “See You Again” came together, and why it still feels unexplainable • How early success shaped his career before his identity caught up • Why the best songs often come from discomfort, not control • The role of collaboration in pushing him beyond his instincts • Sessions with legendary artists — and what those moments actually feel like • The importance of staying human in an increasingly synthetic world • And much more… Hit the subscribe button and follow us on socials @andthewriteris Every week, we go deep with the most interesting creatives in music. A special thank you to our sponsors… Our lead sponsor, NMPA — the National Music Publishing Association. Your support means the world to us. And @splice — the best sample library on the market. Period. Chapters: 0:00 Intro 2:46 Charlie Demos the Theme Song 5:00 The “Mouth Phone” Trick 7:00 His Secret Involvement in Dangerous Woman 9:00 “Stay” — The Power of Collaboration (Justin Bieber, Kid Laroi) 13:00 “Are You Where You Want to Be?” 16:00 Where His Best Work Comes From 16:53 The Story of See You Again 20:43 Wiz Khalifa’s Defining 'See You Again' Moment 23:02 When the Industry Didn’t Know What to Do With Him 27:22 The Song No One Believed In (We Don’t Talk Anymore) 29:52 Ross’s Philosophy on Sending Music 31:04 The Song That Changed Everyt…

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