# What is the Nicene Creed? PART 10: One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church with The Rev. Dr. Valerie Bailey

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Published: 2026-02-23T11:00:00+00:00
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For part 10 of 12 on “What is the Nicene Creed?” we unpack this lines: "We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church." ... which can feel strange, or outright ironic, when you are in a church that doesn't get along with ... the church across the street. How can we proclaim we are ONE church when Christianity is so obviously divided? How could the church 1700 years ago claim this, when division goes back to James and John vying to sit at the right hand of Jesus when he came into glory? We bring in scholar and priest, The Rev. Dr. Valerie Bailey, to speak with us and muddle through what it means to (1) be a church in the tradition of the apostles and (2) aspire for such holy unity.

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