# Jim Palmer and Deconstruction- Part Two

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Podcast: [Anabaptist Theological Perspectives](https://stenobird.com/podcast/anabaptist-theological-perspectives-7015144)
Published: 2026-08-01T22:57:40+00:00
Episode link: https://JerryEicher.podbean.com/e/tearing-down-the-tower-an-anabaptist-rebuttal-to-jim-palmer/
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## Resource

Host Jerry Eicher continues Anabaptist Theological Perspectives with part two of his critique of Jim Palmer’s list of “13 religious ideas that no longer fit reality.” In this episode Eicher addresses ideas 7–13, confronting Palmer’s deconstructionist claims about miracles, the nature of evil, divine violence, atonement, final punishment, the purpose of Jesus, and the authority of Scripture.Eicher defends a traditional theological reading—drawing on C.S. Lewis and contemporary thinkers like Jordan Peterson—arguing that miracles reinforce rather than suspend natural law, that evil involves real malevolent forces, and that divine justice may necessarily include force. He also explores atonement (including penal substitution and the ‘‘bait’’ theory), critiques annihilationist alternatives to eternal conscious punishment, and rejects the reduction of Jesus to a mere mechanism for escaping hell.Throughout the episode Eicher situates his critique within an Anabaptist emphasis on local, grassroots rebuilding of faith communities rather than wholesale institutional destruction. He closes with personal testimony about encountering God and a call to engage robust theological resources rather than sweeping deconstruction.

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