# The Oldest Con, the Newest Tools | An Interview with Sarah Armstrong-Smith At Infosecurity Europe 2026 | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age With Marco Ciappelli

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Published: 2026-06-17T13:16:48+00:00
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## Resource

After nearly thirty years in cyber and crisis leadership, Sarah Armstrong-Smith says the thing most people in her position won't: whatever we're doing isn't working. We sat down at InfoSecurity Europe to talk about why more technology keeps making things worse, the human being behind every "X million records," and the worst-case scenario that keeps her up at night.

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