# The Business of Extortion — Storytelling, Ransomware, and the BBC's Cyber Hack | Geoff White | PODCAST EPISODE | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age — On Location at InfoSecurity Europe 2026 On Location With Sean Martin And Marco Ciappelli

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PODCAST EPISODE | An Analog Brain In A Digital Age — On Location at InfoSecurity Europe 2026 On Location With Sean Martin And Marco Ciappelli Investigative journalist Geoff White has read 300,000 leaked messages written by a ransomware gang in their own words, when they thought no one was watching. We talked about what those messages reveal — not about hacking, but about the stories criminals tell themselves to get out of bed in the morning, and why storytelling, not jargon, is how the rest of us finally understand any of it.

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