# Why the Iran War Is All About China | Zineb Riboua

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Podcast: [American Thought Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274)
Published: 2026-03-06T01:00:00+00:00
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“The U.S. went to war in Iran because Iran made itself a Chinese weapon,” argues policy analyst Zineb Riboua, a research fellow at Hudson Institute’s Center for Peace and Security in the Middle East. Riboua is the founder of the “China in MENA Project,” which tracks communist Chinese expansion and influence across the Middle East and North Africa (MENA). Is there a bigger dimension to the Iran war that people are missing? “We have this tendency to just look at the countries involved ... but there’s a big player, and the big player here is China,” she says. “China has been investing immensely in the region in the last two decades, in courting, in coordinating, in cooperating with Gulf countries, with Iran itself, and also with its proxies.” And why, I ask her, has China been so keen on gaining strategic influence over the Middle East? It’s because the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) understands that “China cannot rise without having the United States weakened in one of the most important regions in the world,” she said. “Iran has been that tool. China has built Iran’s military arsenal. It has collaborated extensively with Iran’s proxies, especially the Houthis. “And reversing that calculus is what Operation Epic Fury is doing.” In our interview, we delve deep into the symbiotic relationship between the two countries—why China needs Iran and why Iran needs China: Which role does Iran play on China’s geopolitical chessboard? Why did China turn Iran into one of its strategic allies, and how did the Islamic Republic benefit? How dependent is the Iranian regime on China’s military support and surveillance infrastructure? How dependent is China on Iran’s oil? The goal of America’s military operation, Riboua believes, is to dismantle the whole structure of the Islamic Republic.…

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