# Matched and ‘Killed to Order’: Inside the CCP’s Dark Organ Industry | With Guest Host Rob Schneider

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Podcast: [American Thought Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274)
Published: 2026-02-28T21:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

For twenty years, I’ve investigated a crime almost too horrific to name—now documented in my new book: “Killed to Order: China’s Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America’s Biggest Adversary.” In America and other free countries, patients wait months or even years for an organ. But in China, transplant wait lists are measured in weeks—or even days. In this episode, the tables are turned, and I’m in the guest seat this time. I invited my good friend, actor and comedian Rob Schneider, who has become deeply personally invested in this issue, to be the guest host for this special episode. This is the dark reality: When someone decides to go to China and pay a hefty sum for a scheduled transplant, then on the other side, an incarcerated prisoner of conscience, who has already been blood-typed and tissue-typed, is likely being killed to order. China’s transplant industry began its exponential expansion at the exact same time as the state launched its aggressive, nationwide campaign to eradicate the spiritual practice of Falun Gong. There is growing evidence of Uyghurs being targeted as well. There is even an underground global market for what are called “Halal organs,” which means organs from Muslim donors. And it’s not just wealthy foreigners who travel to China for organ transplants. China’s super elite have access to a secretive longevity program dubbed “ Project 981 ” with eerie ties to this macabre organ industry. This project entered the spotlight last year after the revealing hot mic exchange between Chinese leader Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin, where they talked about extending lifespans in part through repeated organ transplants. American institutions have, wittingly or unwittingly, helped facilitate the rise of China’s transplant sy…

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