# From Iran to Venezuela—How Trump Is Neutralizing Beijing’s Allies | Gordon Chang

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Podcast: [American Thought Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-thought-leaders-1056274)
Published: 2026-03-04T01:00:00+00:00
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Dozens of Iranian leaders, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have been killed in U.S.–Israeli joint strikes on Iran. In this episode, I’m sitting down again with seasoned China analyst Gordon Chang, author of “Plan Red,” to understand how this is changing the global geopolitical landscape—especially for Beijing. Including the Venezuela raid that captured regime leader Nicolás Maduro, this is the second time President Donald Trump appears to be neutralizing a key ally of Beijing. Views expressed in this video are opinions of the host and the guest, and do not necessari

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