# E254 - How Zionism Failed w/ Omer Bartov

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Podcast: [American Prestige](https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-prestige-4093863)
Published: 2026-06-24T09:00:00+00:00
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Subscribe now for an ad-free experience. Omer Bartov, Dean’s Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Brown University, joins the program to talk about Zionism’s transformation from an emancipation movement into a form of ethno-nationalism. They delve into Zionism’s formation alongside European colonialism, how settler encroachment influenced Palestinian nationalism, comparisons with European settler colonialism, whether Zionism’s “wrong turn” was in the formation of the State of Israel itself, the meaning of “never again,” how the historical memory of the Holocaust is used to justify Israeli expansion, Israel’s lack of a constitution, and liberal Zionism in the United States. Be sure to get a copy of Omer’s book Israel: What Went Wrong? Don't forget to tune into our weekly livestream, Wednesday night at 8pm ET on our YouTube channel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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