# Bonus - After the Liberal International Order w/ Judah Grunstein (Preview)

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Podcast: [American Prestige](https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-prestige-4093863)
Published: 2026-05-03T13:20:00+00:00
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Subscribe now for the full episode. Danny and Derek speak with Judah Grunstein, World Politics Review’s editor-at-large, about American power and what a post-unipolar future might look like. They discuss the meaning of the liberal international order, U.S. empire and legitimacy, Trump challenging American primacy, the role of middle powers, China and the European Union, climate change and development, strategic autonomy, and the possibility of Washington not ushering in a new order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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