# Remember the Old Days (Say, 2020)?

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Podcast: [American Diplomat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/american-diplomat-9204)
Published: 2026-04-23T10:00:00+00:00
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By what dirty tricks exactly did Orban seize control of his country? And how then did his rival Magyar beat him? And between those bookends, we offer a look at what it was like to run the embassy in Budapest under Trump I. Could it be any more different than Trump now? Dave Kostelancik, former Chargé d'Affaires, regales us.

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