# Murphy: American 'Crisis' Far Deeper than Trump

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Published: 2026-05-28T18:48:00+00:00
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E. Jean Carroll, the woman who won two civil suits against Donald Trump to the tune of $88+ million, is now the target of a Justice Department investigation for perjury. The DOJ probe is viewed by many as yet another example of the president seeking retribution from his perceived enemies and critics. But in his new book “Crisis of the Common Good,” Democratic Senator Chris Murphy argues that Trump is not the root cause of America's troubles, but the product of a much deeper crisis. He joins Christiane from Chicago. Also on today's show: former Costa Rica VP Rebeca Grynspan, now Secretary-General of UNCTAD; historian Jill Lepore on her new book "We the People" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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