# Former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/amanpour-808408/former-us-defense-secretary-chuck-hagel Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/amanpour-808408/former-us-defense-secretary-chuck-hagel.md Podcast: [Amanpour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/amanpour-808408) Published: 2026-07-21T21:06:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/swap.fm/track/2nzGkisFXQswLYT5s325/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY4504411549.mp3 Audio file: https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/swap.fm/track/2nzGkisFXQswLYT5s325/traffic.megaphone.fm/WMHY4504411549.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/amanpour-808408/episodes/former-us-defense-secretary-chuck-hagel Duration seconds: 3387 ## Resource Donald Trump is vowing revenge, after American service members were killed by Iranian strikes. Meanwhile in Iran, President Mahmoud Pezeshkian has told his people that they are engaged in a full-scale war. And the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen are vowing to blockade a second critical shipping channel, further threatening global oil supplies. Former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel joins the program to discuss.  Also on today's show: US House Democrat Mark Pocan; climate professor Radley Horton; author Adrian Wooldridge    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/amanpour-808408/episodes/former-us-defense-secretary-chuck-hagel/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/amanpour-808408/former-us-defense-secretary-chuck-hagel.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.