# Former Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes

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Podcast: [Amanpour](https://stenobird.com/podcast/amanpour-808408)
Published: 2026-05-27T19:01:00+00:00
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Iranian state media says a possible agreement is under discussion with the US that could end the war. Regardless if and when a deal is reached, the monumental mistrust between America and the Mideast that's been growing for decades won't abate anytime soon. Our first guest knows all about that. Ben Rhodes is a former Deputy National Security Adviser who cowrote President Obama's landmark 2009 Cairo speech. He's just written a new book, "All We Say: The Battle for American Identity." Also on today's show: Oliver McTernan, Director, Forward Thinking; Ethar El-Katatney, Editor-in-Chief, "Documented" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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