# Heaven & Hell: No Easy Answers Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/all-things-episcopal-6301316/heaven-hell-no-easy-answers Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/all-things-episcopal-6301316/heaven-hell-no-easy-answers.md Podcast: [All things…Episcopal](https://stenobird.com/podcast/all-things-episcopal-6301316) Published: 2025-11-21T14:20:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/adbc755f Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/adbc755f/d0a759ef.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/all-things-episcopal-6301316/episodes/heaven-hell-no-easy-answers Duration seconds: 2223 ## Resource In this episode… In this episode, Clare, Kelsey Phillips and Riley Brown dive into one of the oldest — and most misunderstood — topics in Christian theology: heaven and hell. Together, with Mtr. Kelly Demo, they unpack what the Episcopal Church teaches (and doesn’t teach) about the afterlife, judgment, salvation, and what it all means for how we live today. About the Hosts The Rev. Clare Stern-Burbano (she/her) The Rev. Clare Stern-Burbano (she/her) is the curate for Campus Ministry at Kansas State University and the Associate for college, youth, and children’s ministry at a parish in Kansas City, MO and graduate from the Univ. of Dubuque Theological Seminary (MDiv.) and from Bishop Kemper School for Ministry (Anglican Studies). She hopes of one day becoming an Episcopal priest and is discerning in the Diocese of Kansas. Clare comes from an interfaith family and found a spiritual home in the Episcopal Church when she was nine years old. Riley Brown (He/Him) Riley Brown is the Young Adult Missioner for the Diocese of West MO. He is passionate about making the Episcopal Church accessible to young people who, like himself, might not have grown up in the tradition. In other words, he feels his goal is to help make it all make sense to those who might not understand all the smells, bells, kneeling, and standing. Riley lives with his wife, Noah, and their two cats, Punchy and Teddy. He enjoys reading and playing games with his friends. Guest: The Rev. Kelly Demo (she/her) is the Associate Rector at St. Thomas the Apostle Episcopal Church in Overland Park, Kansas. During her 29 years of ordained ministry much of Kelly's work has focused on both youth and their spiritual development, and matters of social justice and poverty. Outside the church Rev. Demo worked for ten years w… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/all-things-episcopal-6301316/episodes/heaven-hell-no-easy-answers/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/all-things-episcopal-6301316/heaven-hell-no-easy-answers.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.