# 'He wasn’t a victim’: Hayes on Lindsey Graham's bargain with Trump

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Podcast: [All In with Chris Hayes](https://stenobird.com/podcast/all-in-with-chris-hayes-60960)
Published: 2026-07-14T01:57:09+00:00
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The sister of Lindsey Graham is tapped to fill his seat.

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