# UFOs, Aliens, and Spirits

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Podcast: [Alien UFO Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/alien-ufo-podcast-4651458)
Published: 2026-09-04T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.podpage.com/the-alien-ufo-podcast-1/
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## Resource

This week I am talking to Mark Gober about his book 'An End to Upside Down Contact: UFOs, Aliens, and Spirits—and Why Their Ongoing Interaction with Human Civilization Matters'.

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