# How AI Is Shaping Agility — with Jurgen Appelo

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Published: 2025-09-10T04:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of AI Today, recorded live at the Agile2025 event, hosts Kathleen Walch and Avinash Dhanraj sit down with author, entrepreneur, and organizational design expert Jurgen Appelo to explore how agility must evolve in the age of AI. As part of our AI & Agile mini-series, this conversation unpacks the challenges of outdated frameworks, the importance of experimentation, and what it takes to build organizations that are truly adaptable—when both humans and AI agents are par...

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