# Can AI Agents Earn Your Trust? Elliott Mattice on AI Governance

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Podcast: [AI Security, Cyber Risk, and Cloud Strategy on ClearTech Loop](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-security-cyber-risk-and-cloud-strategy-on-cleartech-loop-7397291)
Published: 2026-07-21T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What if an AI agent had to earn—and keep—its access based on how it behaved? In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with Elliott Mattice, founder of Exprima, to examine trust as the missing operating layer between AI security and AI governance. Traditional controls can define an agent’s identity and permissions. Governance frameworks can establish policies and accountability. Elliott argues that organizations still need something in the middle: continuous behavio...

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