# AI Security: Todd Smith on Shadow AI, NHIs, and AI Defense

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Podcast: [AI Security, Cyber Risk, and Cloud Strategy on ClearTech Loop](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-security-cyber-risk-and-cloud-strategy-on-cleartech-loop-7397291)
Published: 2026-04-29T09:00:00+00:00
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What does AI security actually look like inside real organizations? In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson talks with Todd Smith, SVP and Director of Customer IAM and Threat Intelligence at Ameris Bank, about shadow AI, non human identities, and what AI defense looks like in environments where identity, fraud, and security are tightly connected. They unpack why shadow AI is both an IT and security issue, why blocking AI tools is not a long term strategy, and how organizati...

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