# AI Security: Matt Sharp on Shadow AI, NHIs, and AI Defense

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Podcast: [AI Security, Cyber Risk, and Cloud Strategy on ClearTech Loop](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-security-cyber-risk-and-cloud-strategy-on-cleartech-loop-7397291)
Published: 2026-04-07T09:00:00+00:00
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What does AI security actually look like inside real organizations? In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson talks with Matt Sharp, Chief Information Security Officer at Xactly, about shadow AI, non human identities, and what leaders should really mean when they talk about AI defense. They unpack why shadow AI is both an IT and security issue, how CISOs and CIOs are approaching identity and governance, and why AI defense now spans productivity tools, SaaS platforms, internal envir...

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