# AI Security: Gerald Auger on Shadow AI, Non Human Identities, and AI Defense

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Podcast: [AI Security, Cyber Risk, and Cloud Strategy on ClearTech Loop](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-security-cyber-risk-and-cloud-strategy-on-cleartech-loop-7397291)
Published: 2026-06-10T02:00:00+00:00
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AI is moving faster than policy, training, and many traditional controls were designed to handle. In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson talks with Gerald Auger, Chief Content Creator of Simply Cyber, about shadow AI, non human identities, over-permissioned agents, and what AI defense means when AI systems can act at machine speed. Gerald brings the educator, GRC, and practitioner-community lens to the conversation. His take is practical: organizations probably cannot put ...

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