# China's Qwen 3.8 Max DESTROYS GPT 5.6?

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Podcast: [AI News Today | Julian Goldie Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-news-today-julian-goldie-podcast-7573784)
Published: 2026-07-20T23:25:01+00:00
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## Resource

Qwen 3.8 Max Preview: Alibaba’s 2.4T-Parameter Open Model Claims #2 Behind “Fable 5”The script covers Alibaba’s announcement of Qwen 3.8 Max Preview, described as a 2.4 trillion parameter open source model available via Alibaba’s Token Plan (Coder/Coder Work) and Qwen Cloud, though the narrator can’t access it yet or find an OpenRouter API and notes it’s available in China. Qwen claims it is “second only to Fable 5,” which the narrator calls unusually bold, especially after China’s Kimi K3 released this week and performed extremely well in the narrator’s personal tests across 50 builds on Goldy Bench. The narrator argues open source Chinese models are rapidly closing gaps with and sometimes overtaking US frontier models, with more releases expected from GLM, DeepSeek GA4 Pro, and Minimax, and promotes AI Profit Boarding for training, community support, and future Qwen testing via Agent OS.

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