# The Messy Web of AI Guardrails

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Podcast: [AI Inside](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-inside-6756183)
Published: 2026-05-07T03:51:00+00:00
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This week Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack a surprising policy reversal from the White House, which is now weighing a plan to vet frontier AI models before release after revoking Biden's safety order on day one. They also dig into the Musk versus OpenAI trial testimony, where $80 billion Mars requests and near-physical confrontations made it feel more like a soap opera than a courtroom.Also in this episode: OpenAI traced a goblin obsession back to a rogue reward signal, Yann LeCun told students to ignore AI doom narratives, Gary Marcus called out Richard Dawkins for declaring Claude is conscious, a researcher invented a fake disease that every AI treated as real, and in the speed round, Nvidia's China market share hit zero, Anthropic launched a $1.5 billion enterprise joint venture, Google split its TPU into two chips, and China made it illegal to fire workers over AI. New episodes every Wednesday at aiinside.show. Note: Time codes subject to change depending on dynamic ad insertion by the distributor. CHAPTERS: 0:00 - Start 0:04:00 - White House Considers Vetting A.I. Models Before They Are Released Behind the White House’s Potential Rethink on A.I. 0:13:51 - Canadian fiddler sues Google after AI Overview wrongly claimed he was a sex offender What Was Discussed at Google’s White House Meeting About A.I. 0:22:32 - Top AI companies agree to work with Pentagon on secret data 0:24:09 - OpenAI’s president does ‘all the things,’ except answer a question 0:31:32 - Where the goblins came from (OpenAI) 0:36:29 - Video explaining JEPA with LeCun 0:42:50 - AI godfather Yann LeCun's blunt advice for the AI age 0:44:47 - Will A.I. Make College Obsolete? 0:48:51 - Marcus: Richard Dawkins and The Claude Delusion 0:55:29 - Scientists invented a fake disease. AI told people it was…

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