# Build More Reliable Machine Learning Systems With The Dagster Orchestration Engine Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast/build-more-reliable-machine-learning-systems-with-the-dagster-orchestration-engine Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast/build-more-reliable-machine-learning-systems-with-the-dagster-orchestration-engine.md Podcast: [AI Engineering Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast) Published: 2022-12-02T00:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.aiengineeringpodcast.com/dagster-ml-orchestration-episode-14 Audio file: https://op3.dev/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/serve.podhome.fm/episode/f6ff0caa-931b-4c08-bfdd-08dc7f5cd336/63853053846104646175159ac5-5d5d-4265-8110-45ee0d55871fv5.mp3 Processing state: failed JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-engineering-podcast/episodes/build-more-reliable-machine-learning-systems-with-the-dagster-orchestration-engine Duration seconds: 2743 ## Resource Summary Building a machine learning model one time can be done in an ad-hoc manner, but if you ever want to update it and serve it in production you need a way of repeating a complex sequence of operations. Dagster is an orchestration engine that understands the data that it is manipulating so that you can move beyond coarse task-based representations of your dependencies. In this episode Sandy Ryza explains how his background in machine learning has informed his work on the Dagster project and the foundational principles that it is built on to allow for collaboration across data engineering and machine learning concerns. Interview Introduction How did you get involved in machine learning? Can you start by sharing a definition of "orchestration" in the context of machine learning projects? What is your assessment of the state of the orchestration ecosystem as it pertains to ML? modeling cycles and managing experiment iterations in the execution graph how to balance flexibility with repeatability  What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen orchestration implemented/applied for machine learning? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on orchestration of ML workflows? When is Dagster the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of ML support in Dagster? Contact Info LinkedIn @s_ryz on Twitter sryza on GitHub Parting Question From your perspective, what is the biggest barrier to adoption of machine learning today? Closing Announcements Thank you for listening! Don't forget to check out our other shows. The Data Engineering Podcast covers the latest on modern data management. Podcast.__init__ covers the Python language, its community, and the innovative way… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-engineering-podcast/episodes/build-more-reliable-machine-learning-systems-with-the-dagster-orchestration-engine/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast/build-more-reliable-machine-learning-systems-with-the-dagster-orchestration-engine.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.