# Barking Up The Wrong GPTree: Building Better AI With A Cognitive Approach Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast/barking-up-the-wrong-gptree-building-better-ai-with-a-cognitive-approach Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast/barking-up-the-wrong-gptree-building-better-ai-with-a-cognitive-approach.md Podcast: [AI Engineering Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast) Published: 2024-07-28T20:10:14+00:00 Episode link: https://www.aiengineeringpodcast.com/peter-voss-cognitive-ai-episode-33 Audio file: https://op3.dev/e/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/serve.podhome.fm/episode/f6ff0caa-931b-4c08-bfdd-08dc7f5cd336/6385754412702070315309f77c-df71-4a9a-9178-7c204480c4efv1.mp3 Processing state: failed JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-engineering-podcast/episodes/barking-up-the-wrong-gptree-building-better-ai-with-a-cognitive-approach Duration seconds: 3169 ## Resource Summary Artificial intelligence has dominated the headlines for several months due to the successes of large language models. This has prompted numerous debates about the possibility of, and timeline for, artificial general intelligence (AGI). Peter Voss has dedicated decades of his life to the pursuit of truly intelligent software through the approach of cognitive AI. In this episode he explains his approach to building AI in a more human-like fashion and the emphasis on learning rather than statistical prediction. Announcements Hello and welcome to the AI Engineering Podcast, your guide to the fast-moving world of building scalable and maintainable AI systems Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Peter Voss about what is involved in making your AI applications more "human" Interview Introduction How did you get involved in machine learning? Can you start by unpacking the idea of "human-like" AI? How does that contrast with the conception of "AGI"? The applications and limitations of GPT/LLM models have been dominating the popular conversation around AI. How do you see that impacting the overrall ecosystem of ML/AI applications and investment? The fundamental/foundational challenge of every AI use case is sourcing appropriate data. What are the strategies that you have found useful to acquire, evaluate, and prepare data at an appropriate scale to build high quality models?  What are the opportunities and limitations of causal modeling techniques for generalized AI models? As AI systems gain more sophistication there is a challenge with establishing and maintaining trust. What are the risks involved in deploying more human-level AI systems and monitoring their reliability? What are the practical/architectural methods necessary to build more cognitiv… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ai-engineering-podcast/episodes/barking-up-the-wrong-gptree-building-better-ai-with-a-cognitive-approach/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/ai-engineering-podcast/barking-up-the-wrong-gptree-building-better-ai-with-a-cognitive-approach.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.