# Amazon Destroys Rare Books for AI, Anthropic's Hidden Model, and OpenAI Shakeup

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Published: 2026-08-19T21:12:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, we cover Amazon's secretive operation buying and destroying rare, out-of-print books to train AI, uncovered by a 404 Media AirTag investigation, and the fair use and preservation debate it sparked. We break down Anthropic's disclosure of an unreleased, more capable internal model called Model 2, raising questions about whether the true AI capability frontier now sits hidden inside frontier labs. We also examine a major leadership shakeup at OpenAI ahead of an expected public offering, with Denise Dresser out, Dali Rajic in, and Greg Brockman in "founder mode," plus Google's Gemini Spark agent gaining the power to act through your logged-in Chrome accounts. Tune in for a clear look at Amazon, Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google Gemini, and what these AI moves mean for users, developers, and the future of agentic AI. https://www.aiconvocast.com Help support the podcast by using our affiliate links: Eleven Labs: https://try.elevenlabs.io/ibl30sgkibkv Disclaimer: This podcast is an independent production and is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by Amazon, Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, or any other entities mentioned unless explicitly mentioned. The content provided is for educational and entertainment purposes only and does not constitute professional, financial, or legal advice. This episode may include affiliate links, and we may earn a commission if you make a purchase through them.

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