# Building AI Agents That Scale – Dikshant Dave Zigment CEO | EP106

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Published: 2025-12-03T16:49:28+00:00
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Subscribe to AI Agents Podcast Channel: https://link.jotform.com/subscribe-to-podcast AI agents aren’t here to replace humans — they’re here to supercharge them. In today’s episode of the AI Agents Podcast, host Demetri Panici sits down with Dikshant Dave, Founder & CEO of Zigment, an AI-powered agentic customer-journey platform helping businesses scale, automate workflows, and boost conversion rates without removing the human element. We dive deep into the evolution of AI agents, how autonomy changed everything, the limitations of traditional chatbots, and why sentiment-aware agentic systems represent the next frontier of customer engagement and sales automation. Whether you’re in SaaS, e-commerce, marketing, or AI development — this conversation will reshape how you think about AI in business. Brought to you by Jotform — your productivity partner for smarter workflows. ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 – Intro: AI Agents ≠ Replacing Humans 01:15 – Meet Your Host & Show Overview 02:20 – Welcoming Guest: Zigment CEO Dikshant Dave 03:05 – How Dikshant Entered the AI Space 06:12 – The Problem That Sparked Zigment 09:10 – Why Traditional Chatbots Failed 11:45 – Autonomy: What Makes Modern AI Agents Different 14:05 – True Difference Between Support Bots & AI Sales Agents 17:00 – Can AI Agents Really Work as Part of a Team? 19:40 – Do AI Agents Replace Humans? The Real Answer 23:22 – Sentiment & Intent Detection Inside Zigment 27:10 – How Modern LLMs Enabled Better Emotional Understanding 31:04 – GPT-3.5 → GPT-4: The Big Jump 33:58 – When Reasoning Models Actually Matter 36:40 – Do Businesses Trust AI to Close Deals? 40:12 – Full AI-Driven Sales? Early Experiments 42:18 – Scaling Zigment to Millions in Revenue 45:51 – Biggest…

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