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Ep. 57: NOT FOR SALE: A Conversation on Conservation with Senator Heinrich
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- Feb 15, 2026
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Summary
From the roughest, driest deserts, to our towering, high-alpine peaks, Senator Martin Heinrich has explored the most remote public lands in New Mexico. As an avid hunter, angler, birder and forager, New Mexico's Senior United States Senator cherishes every opportunity to spend time outdoors. Sen. Heinrich is not shy about expressing his tremendous love for the state he proudly chooses to call home. His unwavering love for New Mexico and its wild places is always on clear display as he tenaciously represents the interests of all public land lovers while he carries out critical work in Washington, D.C. Conservationists from around the country and on both sides of the political aisle have come to recognize Sen. Heinrich as "America's Conservation Champion." In this episode, host Jesse Deubel is joined by Sen. Heinrich as well as two other hunting, fishing and conservation partners. Jeremy Vesbach and Jeremy Romero have both been on the show before. This is their first appearance together. Jeremy Vesbach is a former NM State Game Commissioner and the former executive director of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. Currently he serves as the Western Lands Director at Western Resource Advocates. Jeremy Romero is also a former staff member of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation. Currently he works as the Wildlife Connectivity Manager at the National Wildlife Federation. In conservation circles these two Jeremy's are affectionately referred to as "Jeremy Squared." All four of these professional conservationists have the fortune of sharing time in the field on occasion. After a day of glassing for elk, calling to turkeys or drifting flies down a remote stream for trout, this team of advocates relaxes around a campfire discussing issues surrounding public lands, waters and wildli…