# Your AI Architecture Is Wrong | Agentic EP 05

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Podcast: [Agentic](https://stenobird.com/podcast/agentic-7102051)
Published: 2025-01-09T23:33:10+00:00
Episode link: https://untapped.ventures/
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## Resource

Only 8 companies have shipped AI Agents from production. In this episode of Agentic, I brought together 3 of them, to reveal how they crossed this chasm: 1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they're tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments. 2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months. 3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they're helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers. Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027— Solving for deployment and LLM reliability > focussing on model capabilities. Let’s dive right in. Connect with us at: 1. Jacky Wong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au 2. Aria Attar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/ 3. Joe Stolte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte 5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/ 6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/ 00:00 Trailer + Introduction 02:26 Agentic AI Overview 06:49 Meet the Founders 10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security 20:01 Building Agentic Models 25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models 26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents 27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions 28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders 29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development 33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies 36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges 42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI 44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology 46:56 Removing Human Evaluators in Development

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