# Ex-OpenAI Insider on AGI, DeepMind & AI | Logan Kilpatrick

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Published: 2025-02-21T01:14:45+00:00
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## Resource

He built AI-powered lunar rovers at NASA.He was in the room when GPT launched. Now, Logan Kilpatrick is helping developers push the boundaries of AI at Google DeepMind.In this episode, Logan shares his front-row view of AI’s most pivotal moments—and how they hint at the next paradigm shifts.We also get into:• inside Open AI on Launch day• how Google DeepMind’s Gemini 2.0 Flash is flipping the script on AI economics• the open-source vs. proprietary AI debate, and• why AI’s next frontier is deeply integrated, multimodal agentsPlus, Logan unpacks his insights as an investor—where he sees opportunity in AI, what founders keep getting wrong, and why the most successful startups won’t look like today’s incumbents.00:00 Trailer01:19 Introduction02:41 Inspired by Floppybird03:53 OpenAI Developer Relations08:55 Where AI is heading14:41 Google DeepMind17:47 As an AI founder, B2B and GSuite customer21:29 Better model, low cost27:12 Agentic AI and Google Gemini29:32 AGI and DeekSeek35:55 Investor and AI founder perspectives44:43 What's next from Google48:38 Outro

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