# I Want to Talk About Dragons

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Podcast: [AFTERWORDS: A Riverview Church Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/afterwords-a-riverview-church-podcast-6744503)
Published: 2026-04-29T18:43:34+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/e3b9e8f1
Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/e3b9e8f1/1777eafc.mp3
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## Resource

In this episode, Alex sits down with James, Tony, Justin, and Jordan (in his first appearance as a Riv Pastor) to reflect on a weekend focused on stewardship and an eternal mindset. The conversation weaves together Jordan’s pastoral recognition, the growth of the MSU venue, and the deeper tension of what it means to live as if nothing we have is truly ours. The group explores how money, time, and habits quietly shape us—often exposing where we place our security—and why obedience rarely waits for perfect motives. Finally, they wrestle with awareness versus action, the challenge of forming better patterns over time, and how an eternal perspective can bring peace to present pressures. Listen to James' message Listen to Jordan's message Listen to Justin's message Listen to Tony's message Subscribe to our Messages podcast (Apple Podcasts / Spotify ) Download a copy of the One More Series Journal Visit us online: rivchurch.com Follow us on Instagram Send us feedback: podcast@rivchurch.com — About Riverview Church Riverview Church is a multi-venue church based in Lansing, Michigan, where we invite everyone to know and enjoy Jesus as we stumble together in our pursuit to love like Him. Learn more at https://rivchurch.com

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