# Vance Smears, Pride’s Downfall, PLUS Obama and the Ruling Class, with Glenn Greenwald

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Published: 2026-06-25T11:00:00+00:00
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Emily Jashinsky is joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald for a wide-ranging discussion on politics, culture, and media. The conversation begins with subjecting Glenn to a clip from “The View” amid the growing debate over U.S. foreign policy linked to Israel. They examine whether criticism of Israel is too often conflated with antisemitism and how public attitudes on the issue are shifting. Then Emily and Glenn explore questions about the future of the MAGA movement beyond Donald Trump, concerns about those in his orbit, and the role fragmented media ecosystems play in shaping what voters know. The discussion also turns to changing attitudes toward LGBT issues and the influence of activist and special-interest groups on the public discourse. Later, they examine patriotism through the lens of the World Cup and critique the political establishment during a discussion about the Obama Presidential Center and the close relationships among America’s political elite. The show concludes with Emily’s cultural analysis of Apple TV’s Widow’s Bay, using the series as a springboard for a broader conversation about religion, technology, modernity, secularism, and the growing interest in spiritual and philosophical “re-enchantment,” and more… USAFacts: Demand government accountability by signing the open letter for reliable public data at https://USAFacts.org/supportdata Toups & Co: Ready to give Toups a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to https://toupsandco.com/afterparty , and use code AFTERPARTY for 25% off your first order. Beam: Visit https://shopbeam.com/AFTERPARTY and use code AFTERPARTY to get our exclusive discount of up to 40% off.

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