# The Amnesty Divide, and "Toxic Empathy" Clash, with Rachel and Inez, Plus Bieber's Deep Nostalgia at Coachella

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Podcast: [After Party with Emily Jashinsky](https://stenobird.com/podcast/after-party-with-emily-jashinsky-7380547)
Published: 2026-04-21T11:00:00+00:00
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Emily Jashinsky opens the show with breaking news of a Trump Cabinet shake-up. U.S. Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer is leaving amid misconduct allegations. Then Emily is joined by her friends, Rachel Bovard, Vice President at the Conservative Partnership Institute, and Inez Stepman, Legal analyst for Independent Women. They open the discussion with a look at the House extending temporary immigration protections for some 350,000 Haitians living in the country and the proposed DIGNIDAD Act which would provide legal status to illegal immigrants. The news comes amid reports that about 9% of U.S. births in 2023 were to unauthorized or temporary legal immigrant mothers. Then the panel dives into the recent David French and Allie Beth Stuckey debate on “toxic empathy.” Emily, Rachel, and Inez also have fun discussing Madonna’s appearance at Coachella with Sabrina Carpenter…complete with matching corsets. Emily rounds out the show with a look at Justin Bieber’s moving performance and how his career embodies a dramatic change in our culture, and more… PreBorn: Help save a baby go to https://PreBorn.com/Emily or call 855-601-2229. Unplugged: Switching is simple, Visit https://Unplugged.com/EMILY and order your UP phone today! Cozy Earth: Visit https://www.CozyEarth.com/EMILY & Use code EMILY for up to 20% off

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