# On the Media - The Fantasy of America at 250

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Published: 2026-06-26T23:20:01+00:00
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## Resource

In Texas, a judge sentenced a group of anti-ICE demonstrators to decades in prison. On this week’s On the Media, how leftist zines were used to convict a group of protesters accused of ties to antifa. Plus, as we approach the nation’s 250th birthday, we reflect on America’s inability to reckon with the darkest parts of its past. [01:00] Micah interviews Lex McMenamin , movement building reporter at The Guardian US, about how leftist zines were used to sentence anti-ICE protesters to decades in prison this week. [13:09] Brooke sits down with Eddie Glaude, professor of African American Studies at Princeton University, to talk about his latest book, “ America, U.S.A.: How Race Shadows the Nation's Anniversaries ,” and why, at every major milestone, the United States has struggled to reconcile a “double-consciousness.” Further reading: “‘This is injustice’: how leftist zines were used to sentence anti-ICE protesters to decades in prison,” by Lex McMenamin America, U.S.A.: How Race Shadows the Nation's Anniversaries by Eddie S. Glaude Jr. On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today ( https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm ). Follow our show on Instagram , Bluesky , TikTok and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing onthemedia@wnyc.org. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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