# Daring to be Different: Across the Yard with Stephen Bailey, Fluevog Shoes S04EP16 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/across-the-yard-podcast-7079046/daring-to-be-different-across-the-yard-with-stephen-bailey-fluevog-shoes-s04ep16 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/across-the-yard-podcast-7079046/daring-to-be-different-across-the-yard-with-stephen-bailey-fluevog-shoes-s04ep16.md Podcast: [Across the Yard Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/across-the-yard-podcast-7079046) Published: 2026-04-30T20:09:08+00:00 Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/supplybuildcanada/daring-to-be-different-across Audio file: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2312328452-supplybuildcanada-daring-to-be-different-across.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/across-the-yard-podcast-7079046/episodes/daring-to-be-different-across-the-yard-with-stephen-bailey-fluevog-shoes-s04ep16 Duration seconds: 2595 ## Resource Marketing is louder, faster, and more measurable than ever, but does that actually make it better? This episode is about building a brand people feel something for, not just one that converts. In this episode, Stephen Bailey, Chief Marketing Officer at John Fluevog Shoes, sits down with Liz to unpack what it really takes to stand out in today’s crowded market. Drawing on more than 20 years with one of Canada’s most unconventional retail brands, Stephen shares why differentiation isn’t about having the best price or product, it’s about having the courage to be distinct. From embracing “weirdness” and creative risk-taking to resisting the pressure to chase every trend, this conversation dives into the balance between data and instinct, short-term results and long-term brand building. They also explore how retail has evolved, why emotional connection still drives real loyalty, and how partnerships, community, and a strong founder influence continue to shape a brand’s identity. If you care about building a brand that stands out, creating meaningful customer connections, and thinking differently about marketing in retail or distribution, this conversation is worth your time. Enjoy the show! Links: Supply-Build Canada: https://supplybuild.ca/ Stephen Bailey: linkedin.com/in/baileystephen John Fluevog Shoes: https://www.fluevog.com/ Sponsor info: This episode of Across the Yard is brought to you by Burrows Lumber. Proudly serving Western Canada and Ontario—Trusted for generations! Learn more at burrowslumber.co Also brought to you by Regal Ideas. Inspiring homeowners, one deck at a time! ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/across-the-yard-podcast-7079046/episodes/daring-to-be-different-across-the-yard-with-stephen-bailey-fluevog-shoes-s04ep16/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/across-the-yard-podcast-7079046/daring-to-be-different-across-the-yard-with-stephen-bailey-fluevog-shoes-s04ep16.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.