# Second Time's the Charm as Owner of a $4m Business

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Podcast: [Acquiring Minds](https://stenobird.com/podcast/acquiring-minds-3909119)
Published: 2026-03-02T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://acquiringminds.co/articles/joe-springsteen-mallard-systems
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## Resource

After his first ownership experience ended badly, Joe Springsteen bought a $3.2m maintenance business that is thriving. Topics in Joe’s interview: Background in law and operations Divorce as a catalyst for change Acquiring a biohazard cleanup business Doing cleanup himself His original growth thesis failed Selling the cleanup business His “Codie Sanchez phase” Prioritizing geography in his search Acquiring an exterior cleaning business Building competitive advantage References and how to contact Joe: LinkedIn joe@mallardsystems.com Mallard Systems Sam Rosati on Acquiring Minds: Shortening Your Search: Big 3 Little 2 Work with an SBA loan team focused exclusively on helping entrepreneurs buy businesses: Pioneer Capital Advisory Get a complimentary IT audit of your target business: Email Nick Akers at nick@inzotechnologies.com , and tell him you’re a searcher Download the New CEO’s Guide to Human Resources from Aspen HR: From this page or contact jenny@aspenhr.com Connect with Acquiring Minds: See past + future interviews on the YouTube channel Connect with host Will Smith on LinkedIn Follow Will on Twitter Edited by Anton Rohozov Produced by Pam Cameron

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