# Trust like the Web (of Life) trusts - Biomimicry for Social Innovation with Toby Herzlich Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/accidental-gods-the-thrutopian-podcast-830699/trust-like-the-web-of-life-trusts-biomimicry-for-social-innovation-with-toby-herzlich Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/accidental-gods-the-thrutopian-podcast-830699/trust-like-the-web-of-life-trusts-biomimicry-for-social-innovation-with-toby-herzlich.md Podcast: [Accidental Gods - The Thrutopian Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/accidental-gods-the-thrutopian-podcast-830699) Published: 2026-05-27T00:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/bab39355 Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/bab39355/dda3e928.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/accidental-gods-the-thrutopian-podcast-830699/episodes/trust-like-the-web-of-life-trusts-biomimicry-for-social-innovation-with-toby-herzlich Duration seconds: 5068 ## Resource Life has been evolving on our planet for the past 3.8 billion years. The ecosystems that thrive now have had a lot of practice at getting things right - particularly the complex web of inter-relations that allows us all to flourish. And yet, we're on the edge of the sixth mass extinction largely because we humans have forgotten how to inter-relate and inter-be with the rest of the web of life. At an intellectual level, we know we're integral nodes in the web, but we still behave as if it were other, and out there and not - yet - as if it were a source of wisdom and wonder and wholehearted support: an ancient mentor that has tried and tested enough options to know what works . So how can we bring the astonishing, creative insights of Biomimicry to the field of human inter-being? How can we shift our sense of self and other, our communities of place, purpose and passion, our businesses, our governance structures…everything that we are and do onto a different trajectory using the web of life as our template? Biomimicry for Social Innovation asks exactly these questions and in this episode, we're talking to its founder, Toby Herzlich. Toby is a facilitator, trainer, executive coach, and organizational consultant. She is a Certified Biomimicry Specialist and Founder of Biomimicry for Social Innovation, which exists to translate ecosystem intelligence and Life’s Principles into leadership and social change strategies. As you'll hear, she's part of the team that developed The Nature of Trust, and its 8-principle framework for building and maintaining trust, which is so essential in any network of sovereign individuals whether they're bees, or penguins, elks or geese - or people. Living in northern New Mexico, Toby dedicated 20 years as a Senior Trainer with the Rockwood Leade… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/accidental-gods-the-thrutopian-podcast-830699/episodes/trust-like-the-web-of-life-trusts-biomimicry-for-social-innovation-with-toby-herzlich/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/accidental-gods-the-thrutopian-podcast-830699/trust-like-the-web-of-life-trusts-biomimicry-for-social-innovation-with-toby-herzlich.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.