# Will Trump 'blink first' and end the war?

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Podcast: [ABC News Daily](https://stenobird.com/podcast/abc-news-daily-504641)
Published: 2026-04-21T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/abc-news-daily/will-trump-blink-and-end-the-war/106589296
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## Resource

Donald Trump went into the war with Iran thinking it would be over quickly. More than seven weeks later there’s still no obvious off ramp, with uncertainty surrounding a second round of peace talks in Pakistan. Today, Nate Swanson, a former Iran negotiator in the Trump administration, on what the US president needs to do to end the war and reopen the Strait of Hormuz Featured: Nate Swanson, former Iran negotiator in the Trump administration and former director for Iran at the National Security Council during the Biden presidency. Resident senior fellow and director of the Iran Strategy Project at the Atlantic Council.

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