# Episode 14: Debt & Mental Health

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Podcast: [A Way Forward: Conversations on Mental Health](https://stenobird.com/podcast/a-way-forward-conversations-on-mental-health-7020455)
Published: 2025-05-14T15:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://awayforwardpodcast.transistor.fm/14
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## Resource

In this powerful episode, Jessica Samuels and Mike Gawliuk sit down with Maggie Sinclair from Beam Credit Union to unpack the current reality of debt in Canada—and the deep mental health impacts that often come with it. With household debt hitting record highs and many Canadians living just $200 away from insolvency, the conversation covers the emotional toll of financial strain, stigma, and the hard choices people are forced to make. Maggie sheds light on how seemingly small financial decisions—like “buy now, pay later” services—can spiral into overwhelming debt. Mike brings a mental health lens to the issue, connecting debt to anxiety, depression, social isolation, and the broader issue of poverty. Together, the trio discusses practical strategies to help manage debt and protect mental well-being, from budgeting and debt consolidation to knowing when to seek professional help. Key Topics Covered: The current state of household debt in Canada The hidden nature of modern debt (subscriptions, BNPL services) Emotional and psychological effects of debt The stigma and shame often attached to financial hardship How debt can exacerbate existing mental health issues Social isolation and poverty as compounding factors Practical advice: budgeting, talking to your financial institution, debt management options The pros and cons of consolidation loans and bankruptcy Importance of financial literacy and seeking trustworthy support ** Resources Rising Debt for Canadians https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/527552/Debt-doubts-are-mounting-across-Canada-and-the-Okanagan-is-no-different#527552 https://globalnews.ca/news/10946620/credit-card-debt-transunion-report/ https://financialpost.com/news/canada-household-debt-hits-new-record https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-631-x/11-631-…

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