# Wayback Wednesday: Programmed to Kill Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/a-view-from-the-bunker-1393015/wayback-wednesday-programmed-to-kill Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/a-view-from-the-bunker-1393015/wayback-wednesday-programmed-to-kill.md Podcast: [A View from the Bunker](https://stenobird.com/podcast/a-view-from-the-bunker-1393015) Published: 2026-04-09T16:00:02+00:00 Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/wayback-wednesday-programmed-to-kill--71162872 Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71162872/vftb010.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/a-view-from-the-bunker-1393015/episodes/wayback-wednesday-programmed-to-kill Duration seconds: 2554 ## Resource This week, we begin a series of Wayback Wednesday episodes drawn from our archive of programs going back to 2009. One of our very first programs was an interview with the late Dave McGowan, author of the book Programmed to Kill . Originally released August 23, 2009 BY REQUEST, I’m pulling an interview from my archive of shows compiled during my time as a talk radio host for the mainstream media. A couple of days ago, a P.I.D. Radio listener suggested that we talk with researcher and author Dave McGowan. As it happens, back in June of 2007, I interviewed Dave about his disturbing book Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder . (I’m still amazed I was allowed to bring guests like Dave onto a fairly typical mainstream talk radio station. And we actually won our time slot for talk radio listeners!) You can read the first section of Programmed to Kill , the part that deals with what Dave calls “the Pedophocracy”, online. Find Part 1 by clicking here . If you’d like to buy a copy of Programmed to Kill , Amazon has it in stock . Follow us! X: @viewfrombunker | @sharonkgilbert | @derekgilbert Telegram: t.me/gilberthouse Substack: gilberthouse.substack.com YouTube: @GilbertHouse | @UnravelingRevelation Facebook.com/viewfromthebunker Thank you for making our Build Barn Better project a reality! The building has HVAC, a new floor, windows, insulation, ceiling fans, and an upgraded electrical system! We truly appreciate your support. If you are so led, you can help out at www.GilbertHouse.org/donate . —— Download our free app! This brings all of our content directly to your smartphone or tablet. Best of all, we’ll never get canceled from our own app! Links to the app stores for iOS, iPadOS, Android, and Amazon Kindle Fire devices are at www.GilbertHouse.org/app . Please j… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/a-view-from-the-bunker-1393015/episodes/wayback-wednesday-programmed-to-kill/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/a-view-from-the-bunker-1393015/wayback-wednesday-programmed-to-kill.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.