# 231. How We Feed the World Without Frying the World w/ Michael Grunwald

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Podcast: [A Climate Change with Matt Matern](https://stenobird.com/podcast/a-climate-change-with-matt-matern-7134409)
Published: 2026-03-06T00:14:57+00:00
Episode link: https://aclimatechange.podbean.com/e/231-how-we-feed-the-world-without-frying-the-world-w-michael-grunwald/
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Duration seconds: 3311

## Resource

Michael Grunwald, senior staff writer at POLITICO and author of We Are Eating the Earth, joins Matt to explain why food and land use drive a third of global emissions — and why fixing the climate is impossible without fixing how we eat.

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