# Hour 4: Hugh Douglas Defends Jalen Hurts In Debate Over QB Wins

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Podcast: [94WIP Middays with Hugh Douglas and Joe Giglio](https://stenobird.com/podcast/94wip-middays-with-hugh-douglas-and-joe-giglio-947819)
Published: 2026-06-19T18:19:07+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2622

## Resource

Joe Giglio and Hugh Douglas dive into the polarizing debate of whether wins are a valid quarterback statistic, using Jalen Hurts' career as a primary example. They analyze the impact of injuries to Mike Trout and trade rumors surrounding Byron Buxton on the Phillies' pursuit of a power bat. Jamie Watson also provides a World Cup update. 01:50 - Phillies Trade Targets 06:15 - Barbershop Etiquette 08:42 - Quarterback Wins Debate 16:40 - Alec Bohm Trade Value 22:10 - Brazil Fans In Philly 27:10 - Jamie Watson Interview 39:50 - Changing Minds On Hurts 46:50 - Sauce Gardner’s Real Age

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